Satyr (cain_iii) wrote in art_of_debate,

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Hey! I want some more debate dammit!

No one out there has anything to discuss? Bah! I am certain there are juicy tidbits out there just waiting to be tossed around.

Well, as far as this last post about the pro-choice movement keeping down women of color, I think that is a load of crap. (in my opinion) The problem here is a lack of education and access to information so as to make an informed opinion. Yes, a part of that has to do with their poverty, but a greater portion sits squarely on their values (which again, is affected by their socio-economic position, yes, I know). But, I do not feel as though neither the pro-choice or the pro-life movements are fighting to keep the "colored folks down."

I believe the author has some interesting arguments that are great for sparking discussions, but her conclusions are flawed.

On prisons: yes, I believe that the current prison system is vastly flawed. This idea about rehabilatation is a buncha crap. Prisons are there nearly for pure punishment. Granted, there are resources available to get some education in prison, but the entire system is formulated in such a way as to impede their return to society as "rehabilitated" individuals. Harder to get jobs, social stigma,etc...etc. But most of all, not enough social programs to help the masses get along. That, and crime pays better. It has no retirement plan, and has a high attrition rate, but it definately pays better. That being said, I don't have a much better idea at the moment. We have a social contract (I know you didn't officially agree with it Derwolf, but your continued presence under its purviews is a tacit agreement) and those that break said contract should suffer consequences. I realize that prison isn't a cake walk, but I do not believe that anyone in prison should be privy to rights/privleges that EVERY free, law-abiding citizen in the country do not have access to. I realize that I am moving into a different discussion, so I will make this quick....Until we have taken care of the homeless situation and elevated poverty to the level where everyone gets a daily meal and a warm bed, no one in prison should get one. No pansy ass pandering to white collar criminals either. You broke the law. Plain and simple. Suffer the consequences.
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